Do Maybank and CIMB Bank ASB Financing really help to grow your money faster by using Power Of Leverage? Some say yes, some say no. Let’s do some comparison and analysis. Below are the past performances of Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB):
The results show that ASB’s average returns of investment (ROI) is 10.74% p.a. Basically, the return is higher than BLR rates as shown for the past 16 years except year 1998 due to global economic crisis.
Therefore, the Financing Package offered by bank will be one of the main considerations affecting your make money plan by finance money from ASB loan and invest in the unit trust. Example: Maybank ASB Financing-i loan is now offering: -
- BLR – 1.65% (first 3 years)
- BLR – 1.50% (thereafter)
What if the package was offered at BLR + x.xx% previously? That makes a lot of different! Click here for more features of Maybank ASB Financing-i
Can ASB’s ROI Sustain Monthly Loan Installment?
Let’s do some calculation comparison based on Maybank ASB Financing-i package for loan part and returns based on average performance of ASB since 1993 till 2008.
ASB LOAN CALCULATION
Assumption: Loan Amount = RM200,000, Loan Tenure = 25 years, BLR = 5.55%, BLR-1.50% (for whole tenure) for easy calculation
INVESTMENT CALCULATION
Assumption: Lump Sum Investment Amount = RM200,000, Average Return = 10.74% p.a, Investment Time Frame = 25 years
Note: Future Value of Investment = RM2,562,376.69 is a compounded return of 10.74% p.a. over 25 years. Assuming this is not happening because you will need to withdraw the returns of ASB after one year to pay off your monthly installment.
Cash Flow Analysis
- Cash Flow = Monthly ASB Return – Monthly Loan Installment
- Monthly ASB Return = [RM200,000 x 10.74% p.a.] / 12months = RM1,790/month
- Monthly Loan Installment = RM1,061.20
- Cash Flow = RM1,790.00 – RM1,061.20 = RM728.80
From the calculations, you are earning RM728.80 of positive cash flow every month from the investment based on all assumption inputs we have made. It is a good passive income investment!
On top of that, you are actually paying off the portion of the principal loan for every installment you have paid. The best part is, the portion you pay for principal loan is getting increased for every installment. See the table below:
- 1st Month: RM1,061.20(Installment) = RM675.00(Interest) + RM386.20(Principal)
- 300th Month: RM1,061.20(Installment) = RM3.57(Interest) + RM1,057.63(Principal)
After 25 years, the RM200,000 is belong to yours by paying nothing from your pocket! I hope you have a clearer picture now on the Amanah Saham Bumiputera investment by using bank’s money to fully utilize the Power of Leveraging.
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Dear Horlic,
Thanks for the infor. Allow me to post my question.
I am planning to take up ASB Financing of RM200K for 15 years. MBB mthly installment is RM1469.
As last yr ASB divident is only 7%+1.65%, i use a conservative 7% to calculte future divident.
As a result, yearly divident = (200k *7%) = RM14000. Yearly loan installment = RM1469*12 = RM17682.
This mean i have to top up yearly (RM17682-RM14k) = RM3628.
correct ?
By the time i settle the ASB loan, i would end up paying (assuming tat ASB average 7% divident), total top up (RM3628*15 yrs) = RM54420.
In another word, over the course of 15 years, i will be earning (200k – RM54420)
am i correct ?
Of course a better dividend % will increase my earning, just using worst case scenario.
Next question:-
If for some reason, the loan % is higher than dividend %, I can surrender my ASB financing (withdrawing from ASB and pay back to MBB) to cut the losses, am i correct ?
Mbb offers 2 yrs lock-up period, while cimb is 3.
Sorry for long questions
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Appreciate your expert view point. Thanks !!!
oops… me again, more questions
My Public mutual agent said my money will be better off investing in mutual funds (of course), and Public bank refinancing scheme (into their own funds i suppose) is much better plan.
what do you think ? BIG THANKS!
Dear Friend….
ASB Loan is only for the Bumiputra to take oppurtunity…. first learn to save money and also earn the money back in 12 months…
the most profitable is to get a maximum term loan of 20 years or 25 years… if u leave the dividend money every year in the account… that money too will earn dividend… that is extra money u will be getting and it mean extra bonus income with the same money…
assume u get 16 k every year and u will get another around 14000 extra from the money not withdrawn..
a lot of get rich quick scheme… but this is the best and cheapest and also easiest way to get cash to make cash money..
the ebst.. the whole things is cash… u can go anywhere and get it sold for it’s face value.. no lost at all.. even the ah long have to work to earn… we don’t have to ask for money.. it will be given on the dot .. exact time.. u just need to prepare one year payment… after that.. u got your 200k retirement on the way…
plan to pay 12 to 14 k payment for the first year.. and the rest of the years… don’t pay.. and you will get back your 200 k.. at the end of 20 years.. is simple.. pay 1 year… and just use their money to pay back the rest of the payment for 19 years..
if someone say’s it’s not worth.. go back to scholl and learn how to count… hahahahaha
azman, did u do this?
i’m actually considering taking up asb financing but i am not sure how much and for how long.
i thought by taking the financing, the cert will be under the bank. am i wrong?
Well. For me it is not appropriate to take loan for this ASB because it might be wrong in term of Syariah Financing Scheme. There something not correct here because from what happen in certain years before that the person who took the loan need to pay extra to the bank due to -ve differences in BLR between what ASB offered and the Bank’s offered. Might check this properly because once you borrow, you might need to pay. See this link. http://www.zaharuddin.net/content/view/224/95/
Salam semua,
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Dear Pamela,
I’m interested in answering your first question. Here’s how it goes from an economist point of view:
Let 200000 be your capital = C
Rate of return = 7% = 0.07= r
Investment period = 15 = n
Future value (FV) of your capital is calculated as:
FV= C (1+r) power of n
Let’s cut it short, the future value of your investment at the rate of 7% in 15 years is RM515707, provided that you let your investment’s return untouched throughout the investment period.
Your profit in 15 years is calculated as:
RM515707 minus total installment
RM515707 minus RM265230 = RM250477
Here’s how it works:
1st year: 200000 times 1.07 =214000
Profit/loss: (earning 14000 minus installment 17628 = loss of 3628)
2nd year: 214000 times 1.07=228980
Profit/loss: (earning 14980 minus installment 17628 = loss of 2648)
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Count forward and you will only start generating profit (positive spread your earnings minus yearly installment) in the 6th years.
Wait long enough to the 25th years and you are a millionaire (RM1.01 million),
Year 36 (2.13 million), year 42 (3.2 million). This is at only 7% rate of return. Any decimal increment of the rate of return may significantly speed up your way to the millions (1 year earlier to your first million if the rate were 7.5%), so, imagine 8%, 11%. Even at 6%, you’ll still be able to become a millionaire at the year 29th.
Where you went wrong in your calculation is that you did not take into account the power of compounding, i.e, the earnings of your earning.
Can somebody comment on this asb loan spreadsheet calculation, is it correct?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnjoOhhwwWipdFVVQWRUUkh1Wlk4WGhSeDdjMGJqcXc&hl=en
mengapa perlu tergesa2 pinjam 100-200k sekaligus utk asb, sedangkan kalau setiap tahun pinjam 10k atau 20k selama 10 thn, dpt 100k atau 200k juga akhirnya, bayaran bulanan pun rendah (dlm rm67 @ rm133 sebulan selama 20 thn), dividen setiap thn tu kita gunakan utk byr pinjaman seterusnya.. sesiapa pun boleh buat ni.. berbanding rm642 @ rm1283 sebulan selama 20 thn.. kdg2 awal2 tu kita komited bayar tiap2 bulan sbb anak x ramai, tp bila dh duit belanja makin besar, last2 terminate kan loan, sia-sia je.. kan ke sikit2 lama2 jd bukit
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Terim kasih
for asb loan..its not a good deal. imagine you get rm200k in year 20 or 25. (not rm2mil) rule of thumb, 1. grow your money, 2. You must include inflation effect on your money.
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salam semua,
saya x berminat dengan asb plan ni. dividen yang diberi semakin lama semakin kurang…ini disebabkan orang yang menjaga asb ini ada satu unsur-unsur penipuan, dan bank-bank yang membuat loan untuk asb ni juga menekan rakyat dan mengenakan BLR iaitu riba. jadi fikir-fikirlah..
sekian
To be honest, if you had 200k to invest most definitely u make more, but bear in mind that is “IF” you have 200k to invest.
So for those who cant afford it also can invest by taking up a loan, but with a lower return.
So it’s not really fair to compare the both of them. But from any point you look at it, you still make money from the investment.Simply because the dividends are much higher then the cost of the interest you pay.
And to confirm ASB is no a syariah complying fund, and the word loan itself reflects it not being a halal product.
and just for fun here’s a comparison of rates for the ASB loan.
MBB = -1.65
CIMB = -1.65
RHB Easy = -1.00
And to No Name:
Banks are a running a business, and no businesses are set up to make losses and not doing charity.
The dividend is like our OPR rate(just for comparison use only). As the BLR goes up so does the OPR and also your ASB dividend.(to put it in simple way its just away of the country to control the amount of loans taken by our people and to have them to safe more!!.)
Dari segi apa berlakunya penipuan. Tiada bank atau mana mana pihak yg terbabit mengatakan ASB ini syariah compliant. dan islamic banking punya financing pun ikut BFR which is the same with BLR (cuma concept dia lain ada)
Berita Gembira Kepada Warga Bumiputra. Gandakan Simpanan Anda Melalui Pelaburan Yang Di Terjamin Melalui ASB. Dana Permulaan Sehingga RM200,000 Di Sediakan Untuk Anda. Pulangan Kadar Dividen Purata Sehingga RM16,000 Setahun. Hubungi Saya Di Talian 019 – 699 6002 (Zali RHB)
But isn’t all this calculation based on the ever changing BLR…even a minor increase in the BLR will cause major changes in your returns….so for a 200k investment, even if u say ASB gives a return of 8% p.a. (10.74% is averaged from the beginning, 8% looks a safe figure now) and interest is 4.65% (cos BLR now is 6.3%) your NETT earnings from ASB loan financing (with monthly u pay around 1128.76) will be at 1,231,067.04; as compared to putting 200k into ASB from the start which will yield 1,369,695.04 if u have the cash la….but suppose u put just 1128.76 monthly into ASB from your own cash without any loan…you’ll yield a return of 1,082,992.15…..now of course it still lower but its just relatively lesser than 1,231,067.04. for the extra 10k+ or so in earnings in 25 years, you’re taking a lot more risk in terms of the BLR fluctuations….if BLR really shoots up during your loan term, u can actually make a loss!….not worth the risk….just invest in ASB straight without any loan financing
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/Economics/Inflation-CPI.aspx?Symbol=MYR
referring to above website, Malaysia average inflation rate (short term) is 2.77%.
average gaining from ASB (15 years data) is 3.23%
Therefore, simple Real Rate of Return = 3.23%-2.77% = 0.46%!
In laymen term, with RM 1 today, you can get 3 pieces of cucur pisang. In 20 years time perhaps you have to pay RM10 for 3 pieces of cucur pisang! (even onions price shoot up to easily to more than 300% now)
Take away point: Please do consider inflation rate in your investment.
If you look at the trend of ASB returns, do you notice it is not fluctuating but trending down… can you use 15 years historical returns average as basis for your calculation?.
dear writer and reader,
as shown on graph the 1.surely the total divedend and bonus wont go up due to funding size in this country plus hedging for future economic flop 2.please consider if the blr increases which has increased this year to 6.3 and increasing you will have to pay extra for installment .ull end up paying extra tenure and actually those spreadsheet will screwup since it doesnt cater for varience in calculation aint it?hehe.3.you are losing your potential gain from your future payout.who knows.godwilling 4.ull reduce your loan credit 5.some might said they want to settle it earlier as to reduce the interest,well u should not do this if u r capable of doing the latter6.bank like mbb are soo rich that if u pay extra to setlle it earlier in order to reduce they will overlook unless u give them1 mnth notice.6.in case of emergency those money in asb wont help u since it is still in cert form.7 this is a fact the cash flow analysis is good for first 1 bro…..basic rule capital yeah..right but the second year there after u are losing potential gain.this is the ugly truth to just sharing this:say in three yrs if u can save ur installment 1061 n clculate it n u get what i mean.ive been waiting for three years asb loan scheme well this is why bank only have 5 years n above loan for asb.how can it b more obvious.wallahwalam.at the end we hv our own way of doing things.wsalam.
i am loan advisor from cimb bank . For your information about asb loan from cimb , visit my web http://loanadvisorasb-awami.blogspot.com/ .
Hi, I’m a banker…an Islamic banker to be precise.
My wife and I took ASB financing for RM200K each for 25 years. We only need to pay instalments for first year. The remaining years are paid via the first year dividends (can only happen if the financing tenor is long).
Take note that ASB is only for Bumiputra and the main reason is to alleviate Bumiputra’s economy. I’ve always recommended ASB financing to my family and Bumiputra friends. This can be your retirement plan and NOT SKIM CEPAT KAYA. If within the financing period, you feel that you need to fork up more due to increase in bank’s lending rate, keep in mind that you can always sell back the certificate to pay up the financing and received whatever principal portion that you have paid. As for the issue of the Islamicness of the scheme, I rather not comment. But, to my knowledge, ASB is sanctioned halal by Majlis Fatwa ebventhough some scholars/individuals may think differently (Please double check this). Take note also that Majlis Fatwa in the early days said that working in a bank is “Harus”. Hmm….working in bank (riba) is harus? I’m not saying otherwise or try to convince anybody otherwise. But, there are many criteria before we deem something as haram, halal, harus, etc. Wallahualam….
Hi Samdol, appreciate for your sharing here!
CIMB ASB Loan :
1. Kadar faedah pinjaman yang kompetitif
2. Margin pembiayaan sehingga 100%
3. Jumlah pinjaman bermula dari RM10 000 sehingga RM200 000 .
4. Tempoh pembayaran balik dari 5 tahun hingga 20 tahun atau sehingga umur 60thun , mana mana yang lebih awal .
Terbuka kepada :
1 .Bumiputra sahaja.
2 .Individu yang berumur 18 tahun dan ke atas.
3 .Bagi pelajar & menganggur , penjamin dengan kapasiti pembayaran balik yang mencukupi diperolehi.
Rebutlah peluang ini sekarang !
untuk maklumat lanjut , kunjungi website saya : http://loanadvisorasb-awami.blogspot.com/
Akma,
CIMB Loan Advisor.